Best Handheld Camcorder

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What is the best waterproof handheld camcorder?


I am willing to spend more than 500 if it comes to quality. Looking to use it for snowboarding, mountain biking, and atv riding. And is there one that can be used under water? Thanks

Panasonic SDR-SW21 is a good Shock & Waterproof Camcorder.
Waterproofing down to 2-meter for use even in seawater, shockproof to withstand a 1.2-meter drop, and a dustproof structure

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Flip Ultra HD or a Handheld HD Camcorder?


I’m thinking of selling my Sony DCR SR-85 for a HD Camera.

I’m debating whether which one i should purchase for vacations and such.

I like the flip because of it being compact and the HD camcorders because of the memory it can hold and the quality(although i’m not sure whether the flip hd quality and the camcorder hd quality is the same)

For the most part i prefer a HD camera with HDD capibilites or flash memory, which one do you think is better.

I’m still deciding whether one Sony, Samsung, or Panasonic. Or from your opinion which offers the best HD Camera.

A major disadvantage of the flip is that it has no “flash”; so video in shade or in the dark is very grainy. No HD video out either – you need to load it on a PC first.

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